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songpixie



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Rich's villa too big for neighbors Reply with quote

I thought our local tatata would have this posted already~being the wonderful keeper of bringing us up to date! Smile Thought ya'll would like to see this, and know that yes, your freaky little songpixie wrote to the Editor saying just how inappropriate this article is...they may not post it, so I will paraphrase what I wrote....

The article: http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070109/NEWS05/701090348

My response....

"Dear Editor:
After reading the article "Rich's villa too big for neighbors", in the Jan. 9th edition, I am shocked at the neighbors, not the size of John Rich's new mansion.
I know Love Circle well, having grown up here. It's a beautiful and serene view of Nashville. And if I had the option, I would love to build there.
Mr. Rich could have chosen to build in one of the mentioned surrounding areas, such as Franklin or Brentwood. Instead, he chose to build in the heart of Nashville, which I find refreshing. He is from Texas, yet he has said that he loves this city as if he were from here.
Thanks to the attention this article will surely bring, the size of the new house will be the least of the neighbors' worries. The amount of traffic will be their new complaint.
Some things are better left alone....."

Those of you that know me well here at the boards, know just HOW much I respect John~you don't mess with my boy.... Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you SongPixie - height of the home shouldn't be a concern:

I can't get past the part that they added a freakin map to the new home. Let's just please advertise, and encourage people to come sightsee this apparently quaint neighborhood. blows my mind....

Hope it all works out....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roushfans wrote:
I agree with you SongPixie - height of the home shouldn't be a concern:

I can't get past the part that they added a freakin map to the new home. Let's just please advertise, and encourage people to come sightsee this apparently quaint neighborhood. blows my mind....

Hope it all works out....


EXACTLY... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were me I would put a trailer in...lol....that ought to stir it up a bit...lol...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pawpaw wrote:
If it were me I would put a trailer in...lol....that ought to stir it up a bit...lol...


Only Metro Codes wouldn't let you do this!

My observations on the story:
1) It is legitimate news because this issue of tearing down existing homes and building the so-call "McMansion" next to smaller homes is an issue in Nashville, since Davidson County is considered to be "built-up" with no areas available for development. There's currently a log home being built a short distance from me which is taller than the surrounding brick homes. Some would find that inappropriate. My husband and I think it's a pretty structure.
2) This house is being designed within Metro Codes for building on the property. It's all legal folks, no variances will be required. Some "stars" would ask for variances to put in some particular feature that they want which isn't within existing Codes and Zoning allowances.
3) That home will have a Million Dollar view of the city - maybe a Two Million Dollar view.
4) I'd like to personally thank Mr. Rich for building in Davidson County. The cost of the building permit and the annual property taxes will make a nice contribution to the coffers of the county which will help me continue to be able to afford my house payment on my haven't-had-a-raise-in-years income. He could have chosen to build in another county - and could yet, with all the publicity.
5) Please take this in the humor it is intended: the concept pictures of the home remind me of a coffee maker. It will be interesting to see what is actually built.
6) Mr. Rich, remember this: good fences make good neighbors.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When do you think they will add the link to "Maps of the Stars Homes"....

and who voted that they didn't want John Rich living next door to them? Are they crazy??? I'm hoping that he's looking at the hills of Cincinnati for a second home!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Love Circle' was THE place to go and hang out when I was in high school~and drink a lil' strawberry wine~I was really good in high school, I swear.... Cool

It's just a given for those of us that live here, especially those of us that have grown up here, it's a given that music celebrities live in 'our back yards'....

Like I said, the fact that he is building in the heart of Nashville says a lot about his character. He could, very easily I might add, have built something on a ton of acres in Franklin, like the majority of the music stars do.

And to stress again, NOBODY messes with my boy without a fight... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course i agree that jr should be able to build what he wants on his own land... but did y'all actually look at the plans? um... some of his neighbors' complaints have some merit... it DOES look more like an office building than a house! big is one thing, unattractive is... well, just kinda pointless in my opinion!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. And remember, these are just concept drawings, you're not getting the real feel of the structure from these.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lorenda, I agree with you. The first word out of my mouth when looking at the renderings (before I saw other people's comments) was COFFEEMAKER. There's an office building not far from that neighborhood that looks almost identical to this.

On the positive side, I'm thinking that the design outside is primarily a result of the design INSIDE. It looks like this house was designed primarily to maximize the fabulous views. John strikes me as a "function over form" person anyway (once you get past the bling Wink ).

I wouldn't mind John building a mansion in my neighborhood, but that design would take a while to grow accustomed to. I'm too busy living to stare at my neighbors' homes anyway Razz unless they've built meth labs or have junk cars piled up or their grass is 3 feet high.

I can see both sides of this issue. As for the privacy issue, all of Davidson County's zoning activity is a matter of public record (including their website). If people want to conceal their identities, it's a pretty simple matter of establishing a LLC (limited liability corporation) and having all the permits obtained under THAT name instead. The newspaper wasn't violating anyone's privacy by reporting on a matter of public record.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hecky durn! John can build that in my neighborhood if he wants to! I would have no complaints since I live in the cornfields of Indy, so we need a little something to talk about up here and Villa Rich would give us a lot to talk about!

As long as he is within the codes, etc., I see nothing wrong with it, and as for the Maps of the Stars homes Michelle (O2), doesn't that remind you of our little trip to the Star Cafe' in '04????????? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ottomaniac wrote:
Hecky durn! John can build that in my neighborhood if he wants to! I would have no complaints since I live in the cornfields of Indy, so we need a little something to talk about up here and Villa Rich would give us a lot to talk about!

As long as he is within the codes, etc., I see nothing wrong with it, and as for the Maps of the Stars homes Michelle (O2), doesn't that remind you of our little trip to the Star Cafe' in '04????????? Twisted Evil


It was tourism at it's finest!!

We met caterer's that night!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I have spent a little time today (very little, since I am at work!) using some maps to refresh my recollection of the area. If this design is going to be at the place I think it's going to be, this has the potential to be a stunning addition to Nashville, architecturally. It will take advantage of the wonderful view from that hill. I don't think he can lower it much and still get the full effect of the available view. It has to be above the tree-line on the upper side of the hill.

Davidson County is at a crossroads on the issue presented here. The neighbors who are complaining about it are apparently the type of people who want all the houses in a neighborhood to look so much alike that you can only find the house you're looking for by reading the house number. This is the mindset behind the developments which today level out a hilly area to make the area more uniform from one end of the road to another. There are others who embrace diversity in a neighborhood and want each home to take advantage of the unique land contours of the lot it sits on and enjoy seeing differences in homes as they go by them. With few differences in the houses, they become much cheaper to build. Just as people have their difference in what they want on their pizza, or what they like to hear in music, they differ over what they want their neighborhoods to look like.

I probably come somewhere in the middle. I like to see houses which are somewhat different from each other as I go down a street. If I were in charge I would probably have rules which deal mostly with exterior surfaces and have gradual changes from one part of the area to the next. My personal dream home is a Southern Colonial (the size has gotten smaller as I have aged!). I have, however, been in a lot of homes of a variety of designs which are wonderful spaces to be in.

As a public policy matter for Nashville, I was never more disappointed in a structure as I was in the new Symphony Center. With the uniqueness of the arena and the Country Music Hall of Fame structures on two sides of the "square" that includes the Hilton hotel, I hoped that the Symphony Center would contribute to a visually diverse area which would really say "Nashville" when someone looked at it. The Symphony Center, however, is VERY traditional-looking and could be in just about any city. While I understand that it is acoustically perfect, the exterior was disappointing to me.

So, as for me, I look forward to seeing the Villa Rich on the hillside. I hope more people with the money to do it see fit to contribute other structures to the Nashville area which send Nashville down a path of being Nashville, not a city that's "just like [insert city name here]."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a homeowner in a deed restricted community, and a member of our HOA board, I see both sides too. It's nice that you can find a neighborhood where you can do what you want, BUT, if it sticks out like a sore thumb, and I don't know what the other houses there look like, then I can see the neighbor's point. There's a beautifully modern home on the river in Rockford, IL that belongs to one of the guys from the band Cheap Trick. It's really a nice house, BUT, compared to all the other houses it's ugly because it just doesn't fit in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I can see both sides of this issue. As for the privacy issue, all of Davidson County's zoning activity is a matter of public record (including their website). If people want to conceal their identities, it's a pretty simple matter of establishing a LLC (limited liability corporation) and having all the permits obtained under THAT name instead. The newspaper wasn't violating anyone's privacy by reporting on a matter of public record.

Hf"

My point was to say that if they think they have a problem now, with the simple fact of the construction and architectural standpoints, by them pointing out exactly WHERE a bigtime country star lives, well, they've compounded the problem.

Personally, I love the older houses, as seen in the rest of that district. BUT, if you're going to build somewhere like Love Circle, go 'whole hog'....And I'm sure it will be much more tasteful than they are making it out to be.
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